NYPD Chronicles: Riots in Brooklyn over NYPD shot 16 year old.
Everyone is aware that 16 year old Kimani Gray was shot 7 times by 2 members of the NYPD. Of course you are aware of this story, there are full on riots happening in the Flatbush area right now because of this shooting. I believe regardless of your views (with the exception of a few cruel posts I have read that praise his killing) we can all agree that death is never a nice thing. Especially when it involves a young person that is just starting up in life. Please know that I feel for the family that lost this young teen, and I feel sadness anytime I read about another life lost.
It has been reported that the young man had a .38 on his person and made a “reaching” motion before the cops fired. With that come the conspiracy theories and doubts as to why the cops left the scene, why no one saw the gun, etc. It is also reported that these cops have had quite a lot of trouble within the community that they are to serve and protect and that this is not the first time they are involved in trouble. There are many unknowns here, finding the truth will prove challenging.
Let me ask you though, who do you think you are helping by going out there and throwing bricks at cops? Some of those cops are just regular people that probably had nothing to do with this shooting and you are attacking them. Who are you helping by looting the mom and pop shops in the neighborhood? Who are you hurting by destroying the neighborhoods YOU live in? How long do you think that you will continue launching bricks and bottles at cops before self preservation instincts kick in and more cops start to shoot?
Here is my advice, I know that not all the protesters support the violence, but the few that do, and are using this as an excuse are putting you in danger. Be careful and stay away from those people. Report them, don’t support them because they will get you killed, hurt or arrested.
We don’t know all the details here, I know I don’t and I have read quite a few different views on this story. What I do know is that violence against your own community helps no one and only complicates things while preventing the truth from coming out. I am sure this opinion will not be popular, but you can’t deny I’m right on this. I am open to feedback, if someone can tell me how robbing and looting the bodega helps the cause, please tell me.
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I don’t think they should had shoot a teen, no matter what, also they could had shot one in the leg, not that many bullets. I think the PO is sending a clear message to the teens. “If ur a trouble maker we deserve a right to shoot u down.”
Lalistade, I own a gun. One of the first things you learn as a gun owner is, if you shoot, shoot to kill. Why? Because otherwise you weren’t in sufficient danger to have to shoot, also, if the threat persists, you and your loved ones could still be shot or injured by them.
Shoot him in the leg, that’s insane. If you point a gun at me, I’m not shooting you in the leg, believe that. Besides, they’d still be out there rioting over it.
Great article, please take the time to read .
How are u so sure that he really had a gun?
Lalistade Aura,that’s the part of my article that states “wait for the facts”. Of course there is always a chance it was planted, however, seems like they know where it came from and can confirm that. Again, how does robbing and looting the bodega help here? My issue is the violent protesting, and the innocent people that suffer because of it.
To a degree I understand what you are saying (like ruining your own neighborhood, looking at the whole picture, etc), but this is a dangerous article. Too misleading and it seems as if you purposely left facts out. Instead of reporting on the whole picture, you did exactly what you are accusing others of doing…you became way too near sighted and too confrontational with a bias. But I guess him getting shot in the back isn’t an important fact. Or witnesses saying no one knew he had a gun until he was dead on the floor. Or how the cops fled the scene at first. Or how the cops in plain clothes jumped out of the car and bum rushed the group without identifying themselves. I guess we can also overlook the outrage that was shown for the 6 month old you apparently didn’t notice. We should probably just let them do their job as you say, just like we did with the Noel Polanco case. Because you know Angel, MILITARY PERSONAL ain’t shit. Right? And NYPD is just doing its job by merking them when they are unarmed and getting away with it. And we should overlook the quarter of a million dollars the city lost in 5 federal lawsuts because of these 2 officers. “the 2 police officers in question have also had their fair share of complaints against them from the community.” what a way to Mike Bloomberg the truth there. FEDERAL LAWSUITS, 6 figure payouts, not just some simple complaints. I guess you’re going to be quiet on your personal right to own a firearm because, well the opposition is using the SAME EXACT tactics you did in your argument…really disappointed Angel. Usually you go against the grain to show the other side of things and I’m with it. Here, you 100% missed it and are purposely misleading your following. A shame =(
AdvocateOf Wordz, I struggled with whether or not sharing this. Because my point is in regards to the violence. Thank you for sharing your view, I’ll soften it more. My concern, fear was being perceived exactly as you have perceived it when writing this piece.
PS the military personal line was me being sarcastic. I don’t view it as such and the Noel Polanco case really hurts.
I too agree we need to see the bigger picture and rioting is not the way to go. It is HOW you went about it. You can’t prove people are being near sighted with a near sighted argument. You can’t choose to only read a portion of the story and then lay claim as an author that you know the story. I don’t want anyone on either side to get hurt or cause damage either. But this article isn’t about that. This article is about someone saying other people are dumb, even though the author of the article obviously hasn’t done his research. This was about you getting mad about things you do not fully understand. There is way more to this story and riot than your article even touches. I come from an NYPD family, got loved ones on the job in all houses out in BK too. I don’t want to see a tragic confrontation out there, I too don’t want the violence. But this article will add fuel to the fire of the argument these protesters are making…”No one gives a fuck and no one is taking the time to understand what is going on.” You may give a fuck, but this article leads me to truly wonder just how much real research into this incident you did.
AdvocateOf Wordz, I didn’t write the piece to display all the facts or rewrite the entire story. There are 100′s of places providing that.. I wanted to provide a quick overview, and then make my point about how stupid and idiotic I think it is to destroy your own neighborhoods and rioting, etc..
I put just enough to give an overview, and then make my point. If I covered every piece of the story I’d never publish the piece, especially as more and more information comes out..
In addition, I am fully aware that no matter what I write, some people will take issue with it and not like it. In your case though, you make good points, and provide good perspective, and I see what you mean and I’m making adjustments to correct that.
An overview touches on the important aspects of it. Your “fair share of complaints” line is MISLEADING. Only sharing the version of the kid pulling the gun out is not an overview. And if your intention was for it to be about the violence, then why wasn’t that made the point of the article? It’s like saying you want to write an article about how unhealthy ice cream is for you, but you only write about ice cream staining your shirt. What?!?! Doesn’t make sense, lol. I’m not debating you on the violence aspect, because that’s not what the debate this article is setting up.
AdvocateOf Wordz because I don’t want to have this debate 2,000 more times on twitter,fb, tumblr, g+, and via RSS I’m editing the article to more clearly focus on what my aim was. Rather than giving either of the 2 pieces of info, I’m dropping both to remove that item from the question. Thanks for the feedback homie. You know I’m reasonable and willing to correct what may be wrong or messed up. So always share your views with me. I do appreciate that.
Also, how does the history of the precent and neighborhood play a role in these riots? Who is leading these riots? How many of the protesters are rioting? Did you even know this goes beyond this one incident? How much damage was caused by people who weren’t even part of the protest but decided to use it as cover and an excuse to wild out?
Same that happened with the 99% crap. Protest, you always gonna have jerks with their own agendas causing troubling. Maybe some thug wants a new xbox and this is a great excuse.
I am a parent of a 16 year old. He had been hurt by other tugs, gangs 16 years old, since the 6th grade the gangs had tried to recruit him. Yet, I don’t think 16 year olds should be shot to death, no matter what. Some teenagers walk the wrong ways of life, yet one has to see what that teen’s life had been. This days is soo hard, so difficult to raise and educate ur child, is not a joke, is mentally and physically draining. I had used so many methods, patience and things to guide my teens in the right way, and is is challenging, good thing I have his dad helping out with discipline. But, let’s face it, for the single working moms in inner cities is not a piece of cake, it is extremely challenging to raise and educate ur child, specially when the school is soo fast n quick to call ACS on u when u whip ur child.
Lalistade, I understand, and I remember what happened with your boy. But, if it is proven that this kid was carrying a gun, I have a hard time feeling sorry for him or others like him. They kill babies and innocent people while spraying to kill a rival.
If you are a gang banger, shooting, etc, at that point, I’m sorry about your parents, your friends, but you need to be off the street. Be it jail, or whatever comes your way. Better the criminal than an innocent.
My son went thru the rap mentality, making really disrespecful songs. I had to let him do it, but I told him I did not approve or support it, he went thru the sneakers stage, where everything must be expensive n namebrand. I never let him hag out so the gangs knew who could not meet them and be part of them. There is soo much wrong with the system,.i went to school to tell them my son was offered cocaine and weed inside the school and the assistant principal looked at me like “Ohh no, that is no happening here, when in fact it is”
You are a good mom Lalistade, he’s a lucky kid to have you.
BINGO Angel!!! This is why I’ve yet to take a real stance on this issue. Too many conflicting reports and unknowns. Too much history that was built up to these protest.
Lalistade, I agree with almost everything you say. BUT, there is one aspect we must keep in mind…IF this 16 old knowingly pointed a gun at officers (the gun, the pointing and the officers identifying themselves are in question) AND they didn’t shoot him in the back, then we can not fault them for shooting. 16, 61, age doesn’t matter if you point a lethal weapon at someone. Here is a truth that is being overlooked by those Angel is opposing…homie’s tragedy started before the day he was merked.
BUT AGAIN, and I STRESS, we don’t know exactly how it went down. Many conflicting reports.
Thanks Angel. I try my best is the only thing I can do. I am a very relax n laid back type of parent, I will only put my foot down when I have to. Last time the call ACS on me, I told them what happened, and they were like “Oh, ok, yes you’re allow to discipline ur child” but couldn’t the school call me and ask me questions before going with all this bullshit paperwork?
Lalistade, they didn’t call you because people don’t like to take the time to research and see the whole picture. That paperwork was started for ONE reason…to legally cover their ass. It was not because they felt this was the best route for your child.
Yeah, I called the principal like 4 times, did not picked up the phone, I showed up in shcool to face him and talk about it. That’s exactly what he said ” We had to make the report because if something happens, someone can loose their job” so they are no using common sense.
Luckily your kid got someone watching his back, because the principal basically told you that they wouldn’t.
I wanted to be a mother sooo much, it was the only thing I did wanted in this world. But I never thought that babies grow and have very different minds and their own ways. But the negative influences of the hood, are too huge to be able to raise ur child. It is like all the odds are against a parent. So far, I think I had been lucky.
Aura, it’s not luck. You are putting in the work. Keep up the good job.
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